that was really inconsiderate of you to get 2 of each arc. I waited inline for an hour to only get told it was gone. its people like you who take advantage!!!!!!
If your mom did not even read her copy before giving it to you you clearly intended on that happening in the first place. In the future I urge you to remember the amount of people interested in the books at conferences like these and consider sharing one copy with your mom if she is not intent on reading it to begin with.
Yeah that's kind of not cool I was at BEA and missed out on some of the books you took *two* of. That's nice you want to run contests but what about how you cheat people who make the big effort to go to BEA, out of copies because you take more than 1.
See, I could just delete these comments, but they'll just keep coming back, and perhaps a blog post will keep you guys from continuing to post them. (Or at least post them all on *this* post and not the others.)
A) Anonymous? Come on, guys. It's not like I'm going to hunt you down for stating your opinion publically. I may have even sent you my copy when I was done with it if there was something you wanted. Don't hide behind an anonymous name. When you say something, say it loud and proud.
B) My mother had as much right to grab a copy as any of you and to do with it what she wished - in this case, give it to me. She attended as a normal attendee. Are you going to find those people who are selling their copies online, or grabbing two to give to friends rather than offer those who didn't - or couldn't - attend a chance to grab them? The one copy she took (that, mind you, she had every right to take as an attendee) isn't what stopped you from being able to get them.
C) Either you were late for grabbing the copies, got caught up in the crowd, or they ran out. Yes, I have double of several copies. But I only took one of each. There were two people in the WORD for Teens press group. My mother and I. And if we have two copies, it was because, as two people, we were allowed to take two copies.
Now, you can rant and be angry all you want. It doesn't change anything. I can't exactly bring them back, and I think those who didn't make it deserve a chance to win a book or two.
Now, I love you all, but would you please just shut up and stop spamming my posts with thing I can no longer change? (You are, however, welcome to enter the giveaways themselves.)
[EDIT] To clarify the reason for this post, I get really upset when my readers get angry at me, especially for reasons as silly as this one...
[DOUBLE EDIT] Thanks for all the nice comments, guys! And no, despite the fact that I probably should, I won't take off anonymous posting. Surprisingly, there are some people who comment and say nice things that don't have accounts or anything. If more comments come, I'll delete them. But I play fair, and it's not fair to exclude a bunch of people for one group of morons.
[TRIPLE EDIT] This post is now closed for comments. :)
Hi Nicole! Sorry you're having your BEA buzz tarnished by a few grumpy posters. You & your mother weren't the only ones teaming up for a 2nd copy, as I talked to more than a few 'teams' standing in line together. I don't think there's anything wrong with your mother grabbing a copy, as she stood in line just like everyone else.
ReplyDeleteI didn't like some people asking for a second copy or saving places in line for a whole mob of people, but don't think you did anything wrong. I did talk to one publicist (where they didn't have enough books for everyone) who thought if people really wanted a copy, they should have gotten in line earlier.
Just ignore the anonymous posters, as they just want to complain but don't have the courage to sign their real names.
Really like your blog, and am now following! :)
Great move, writing this post.
ReplyDeleteThat'll shut them up.
Wow, people really got upset huh? That's crazy to me....the books were there for the attendees of the conference and your mother was an attendee...how did she do anything wrong? And I'm sure there are several people who took ARC's that are going to turn around and illegally sell them for quite a hefty profity....what your mother did is perfectly legal, and if she decided to give them to you, why should other people care??
ReplyDeleteThis is why Anonymous comments shouldn't be allowed. Turn it off. If someone doesn't have some sort of login to post on Blogger that's too bad. But it sucks to have to disable Anonymous comments just because of a few ppl.
ReplyDeleteGlad to see you had a good time at BEA and walked out with some awesome titles. :)
Blah I don't see what the big deal is. I missed out on a lot of books this year because of the long lines, but you don't hear me whining. If you want the book so badly what til it comes out and purchase it. Also, if you wanted it so badly at BEA you should have showed up early. Like a lot of us did.
ReplyDeleteI'm way more pissed of by people who sell their arcs on ebay. God that makes me furious! *hiss*
It isn't even that people have teams, sometimes the booths pawned off copies, told you you could take 2, more than once I was told to help myself to get an extra copy for a blogger that couldn't make it. I only did it when there were stacks of books just sitting on the floor but the comments are unneccessary. Nothing can be changed and anonymous comments are just starting problems for something that can't be changed. People just need to chill.
ReplyDeleteHope the comments go away and everything gets better! :)
You might want to switch your comments form Anyone to Register Users. Anom peevs me too, luckily I must not anger that many ppl - luckily so I don't get a lot of them. I did get a girl harassing me when I wrote a really bad review about a book. I think it might have been the author (yikes) but I just deleted them.
ReplyDeleteQuestion: How much was it to get in as an attendee at BEA? Your mother didn't sneak herself in your purse, right? You both paid the entry fees, right?
You were actually too nice - I would have told them something a little less PG ;)
The fact that you actually feel the need to respond to these mean and unnecessary posts is just wrong; wrong in the way that you shouldn’t HAVE to respond because they shouldn’t even be there.
ReplyDeleteI mean, I wasn’t at BEA, but if I were to find out that two people who went together, who both paid, and who just happen to be mother and daughter were picking up the same books, I would figure that there was a reason (like a blog with contests) or whatever. It’s not as if you’re going to keep both copies. And your mother had every right to pick up a book or two.
Hell, if I ever go I’m going to make sure that I bring someone with me just so that I can cover more ground. And if that happens to amount to more than one book, I would give the second away just like you’re doing.
People are idiots who want to put others down to try and deal with their own feelings. Don’t let them bother you, especially when you’ve done nothing wrong. But especially when you have a mom as cool as your own and who went to BEA.
Well, I would have some really colorful words to say to those people, but I'm not quite as calm tempered as you. Those whiners are just wasting time; you and your mom had every right to take whatever book you wanted. I would just love to ask them if they wouldn't do the same? Can they honestly say that they wouldn't take two so they can give one to a friend? Or -- be as thoughtful as you and your mom and /give them away/? It's not like you're keeping them for yourself. I have the urge to tell them to shove it, but that would be rude. :3 Wait. They were rude too. So they deserve any crap you can throw at 'em. But that's just me.
ReplyDeleteWoww...this is intense. You didn't do anything wrong. I have myself and Alicia under Shooting Stars and we have a lot of the same books. We'll most likely do giveaways of some or both review the book though. It's not a big deal. There are TONS of books I didn't get or never do get (aside from BEA). You should buy and support the author if you can't get an advance copy, and even if you do...buy when you can. Don't worry about the haters.
ReplyDelete-Lauren
To be quite honest, I disagree. While yes, it is within your mother's right to grab a copy of Clockwork Angel, I think it is impolite to other attendees who did want the book for review purposes. Also, let's be completely transparent here, press passes are free. She did not pay a conference fee, and you did admit that she registered as a member of your blog. Yet it looks as though she has never posted a review on here? So, perhaps if she had paid the author fee or the Friend/Family fee, maybe your argument would carry more water?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous - She's edited multiple reviews of mine and is my official publicity person and editorial director, as is listen on my Contact Me page. And she's not just the publicity person for me, but for several other official companies/people, and an author for multiple magazines. Yes, she registered with me - because she was coming with me that day. And it still stands to reason that I found Clockwork Angel by accident. (People can vouch for that; I was just wandering around in the morning.) If they really wanted it, they would have been there bright and early and gotten it. *polite answers*
ReplyDeleteWord! I met Nicole's mom who is very sweet. She works in the book industry and had every right to be at BEA.
ReplyDeleteDon't worry about them! I am just so jealous! I want to read like... every book you got!
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure that Anonymous above contradicted themselves. How can a person have the RIGHT to do something and yet have it be IMPOLITE to exercise that right?
ReplyDeleteTo me that just doesn't make sense.
Screw the haters. They're all just jealous and $1,000,000,000,000 says that they're STILL going to enter your contests. Too bad that they're not brave enough to actually put their name to their negative comments. (yes, I understand that I too am listed as 'Anonymous')
Just wanted to say I got there way before 9am, was one of the first 5 or so people on the line at the particular BEA entrance I was waiting at to be let in, and I STILL ended up about halfway through the Clockwork Angel line (they had 300 copies and somehow like 100+ people got in line before me despite heading *right there*) So it's one thing to grab an extra when they have a big pile out, but I do think it's rather unfair when it's something they are giving very limited copies out of and that even people who showed up on time didn't neccesarily get - they were out of tickets VERY fast.
ReplyDeleteSorry but that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. I would be pretty upset right now if I hadn't gotten a copy because I was there WAY early and thankfully I did get one but many people who showed up at the same time as me didn't.
And yes there are things that are legal/allowed but that doesn't make them fair or ethical - for example, selling ARCs from BEA on ebay. Perfectly legal, perfectly crappy.
ReplyDeleteI would agree that, if your mother did attend BEA by paying for her pass, she has every right to get a copy as well, and to do whatever she wants with it (except sell it). However, it would have been more considerate if she didn't plan on reading it, not to take it.
ReplyDeleteI wasn't going to chime in here, because I know that my daughter is perfectly capable of defending herself (and in this case me), but I just can't keep my mouth shut anymore.
ReplyDeleteWhy was I there? I was there for ME. Let me explain who I am, although I shouldn't have to. I am Nicole's mother and her editorial director, but I am also a professional writer and editor who has been in the business for 25 years. I make my living as a professional author. I've written for magazines that many of you read, including USA Weekend, Shape, maybe even Writer's Digest. I've written 7 books -- including recent YA biographies on Ellen DeGeneres and another on Will Smith. I founded www.celebrity-do-gooders.blogspot.com where I have interviewed multiple celebrities about their causes.
I attend many conferences each year, including writer's and book conferences. At these conferences, I interview authors, find subjects for my articles and keep up on the industries that I write about. Therefore I grab books that seem interesting to ME, whether fiction or non fiction. I also go there because I love to read. Guess who got a signed copy of Intertwined? Me! Nicole has one too, but I wanted one for me! Everybody walking through that door is entitled to a copy of a book if they waited on line. It's how the conference works. While you might be upset that I took a copy of a book that you wanted, perhaps YOU got a copy of a book that I wanted, but you don't see me complaining, do you? And why not? Because you waited on line, or got there before me and that's how that convention works. At times it was extremely disorganized and chaotic, so you grab and go.
Some people state that if i didn't plan on reading it, i shouldn't have taken it. Unfortunately, I didn't have the luxury of looking at the book jacket, reading the cover, mulling it over and deciding if it was something i wanted to read. It's not a bookstore. I had people pushing and shoving behind me. I had to grab and go and decide later. I kept books I wanted when I got home and gave a few to my daughter who I knew had awesome followers who might want what I didn't want to read. I also have great books from other non-fiction authors and some fiction books for me.
Nicole's been too nice explaining, but not me. I got in on my own merits and took a book that looked good to me. What I did with it after I left is my own business. you would THINK that people would be grateful that since I didn't want a book I gave it to Nicole to give to YOU, her readers.
You have NO idea how much Nicole thinks about YOU, her readers. She works more hours on this blog -- writing, reading, promoting -- then you can imagine. What YOU might like, how much she has to blog/vlog because YOU are her readers who expect something each day, the interviews that YOU might like and you post the MOST comments because I decided to give her something for YOU that I could've kept????? I could've given it to my neighbor's kid or used it to line Nicole's guinea pig's cage, but i didn't.
Seriously folks, unbelievable. Maybe I'll just go back and keep it.
You're entitled to your opinions, but maybe now you'll realize that I wasn't there just swiping books that you wanted. I was there because I am a 25-year award-winning professional writer and Nicole's Editorial Director and I had the RIGHT TO BE. Now, let it go.
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'Nuff said.